So, recently the Utah State Senate unanimously voted to decriminalize polygamy. Since then, a Utah State House committee slightly modified the bill and made a positive recommendation for it, sending it back to the Senate.
Once, the bicameral ping-pong concludes the bill (SB102), if it passes, would go to the Governor, who might or might not veto it. Hence, while quite interesting, it’s still early days.
If it all comes together in the manner that the bill’s proponents wish, bigamy/polygamy will in many cases go from a 3rd-degree felony with a maximum penalty of 5 years in prison to an infraction warranting a fine and/or community service as punishment. This is hoped to make so that polygamous people are less afraid to report crimes against them.
And Outrage Ensues
This rather quickly caused outrage among many social conservatives, a significant plurality of whom are that particular variety of Protestant-Informed Christians that are uniquely American in culture and attitude. They are quite displeased by SB102 and the fact that it wasn’t soundly and immediately rejected by Utah’s Senate.
To them, this is the bitterest vindication of their position on what constitutes normative families and how the Liberals and Progressives have worked to destroy them. They said time and time again that legalizing Queer Marriage would lead to legalizing Polygamy, and they see Utah’s current actions as the first, major step towards exactly that.
But, this outrage is to be expected and, in my opinion, accepted as righteous even though one may, like myself, disagree with it and its underlying premise. Remember, to them, the law of monogamous marriage as the only marriage provides a sturdy, general framework that enables Americans to order our personal and social lives in ways that are profoundly valuable. As such, they firmly believe that it merits special recognition and protection in our law and culture. SO, of course, they’re outraged.
And they’re not entirely wrong. Though, I believe that SB102 had little to do with Queer Marriage legalization. Polygamy has been a constant issue in Utah and has “enjoyed” a certain “grey area” status for a 100 years or more.
But Where’s The Outrage?
The dark side of the outrage coin is the utter lack of outrage from the Liberal and Progressive types over Utah’s SB102 and its likely passage into law. After all, they – especially the staunchest supporter of Queer Marriage among them – made it clear that they believed Queer Marriage was a right but that Polygamy was an abomination that should be abhorrent to any civilized society as being both destructive and immoral.
But no! There’s no outrage from the Left, not from the LGBT front or the Feminists. They’re dead silent on this except to quickly deny that Queer Marriage legality led to this happening.
And, as for the Poly Community – that’s Polyamorous by the way – even though Polygamy is a dirty word among them, they’re mostly silent too. They’re definitely voicing no outrage, even though they tend to hate the “traditional” polygamists – well, their men – even more than they hate the various social conservatives who disapprove of- and denigrate those Poly people’s own lifestyles.
It definitely makes me wonder. Have they all realized that they’ve painted themselves into a corner and can’t voice outrage over this since they separated marriage from expected cultural norms and mores and made such a big deal out of pluralism? Or do they just hate social conservatives that much that they can’t bring themselves to side with them, even against something they themselves find intrinsically evil and disgusting?
My Thoughts And Bias
First off, I’m polygamous – specifically, I’m polygynous. I have two “wives” – one legal spouse and one “live-in girlfriend” to use other, more legally acceptable terms. We’re what’s known as a “Triad” or “Throuple.” 🙄 We’ve been together over 15 years at this point. Hence, I both have “skin in the game” and an inherent bias when it comes to anything that intersects the law with such relationships.
Obviously, I’m in favor of completely legalizing and recognizing polygamous marriages under US secular law, conferring all the privileges, rights, and duties thereof unto all the family members.
Frankly, I don’t find that either the social conservatives’ or the Liberal and Progressives’ arguments against polygamy stand up to any sort of rigorous scrutiny. Certainly, my own personal experiences with my own family and others in the Poly Community don’t lend any weight to the negative claims.
Yes, I don’t for one second dispute that most of the polygamy cases we hear about in the US are rife with abuse, both physical and emotional, and coercion. Yet, I can’t see where those issues stem from polygamy as opposed to it being practiced by fundamentalist religious splinter groups who, due to draconian anti-polygamy laws, fester in marginalized, insular communities that breed that sort of extremism and allow such abuses to continue unchecked generation after generation.
Also, all the complaints that are worth addressing – there’s some that are ironic or dimwitted enough that I’ll address them in my usual fashion at a future date – are either similarly true/possible within monogamous marriages or have already been decided as being beside the point in separate, earlier contexts, e.g., while it’s statistically accurate to say that White women marrying or cohabiting with Black men have less good outcomes, we specifically made it legal for them to do so in 1967.
The above example of interracial marriage is not a non-sequitur. My “2nd Wife” is Black. When I was born we could not have gotten married in the 1st place due to Anti-miscegenation laws!
And, as a final point, there’s somewhere between 10,000 – 30,000 Religion-Based Polygamists in the US, who make up almost all of reported problems. There’s estimated to be 1,000,000 more of us living quietly among you like any “normal” family. If polygamy was the real problem, you’d already know that.
Orthocegenation – It’s All Good, Gentlemen
Gentlemen – and for this purpose, by that I mean my fellow White men – it’s all good. There’s no such thing as miscegenation, not since we got rid of those Jim Crow laws. So, White Girl, Black Girls, Latina Girls, Desi Girls, and Asian Girls are all Orthocegenation for us – the exact, polar opposite of miscegenation. Yes, Gentlemen, in this context, diversity is to be enjoyed and encouraged.
And… If you’re just here for a bit of fun and enjoy and rainbow of beautiful women, this would be when you leave and go off to the next thing. Otherwise, read on for further, more serious discourse on orthocegenation and the reasons to engage in it.
Read the rest of this entry »
Old Hillary, who just won’t fade into a well-deserved and proper obscurity, has found yet another group of people to blame for her failure to become the 45th POTUS. This time it’s married, White women, specifically the 57% of White women voters who didn’t for her.
We do not do well with white men and we don’t do well with married, white women. And part of that is an identification with the Republican Party, and part of that is an identification with the Republican Party, and a sort of ongoing pressure to vote the way that your husband, your boss, your son, whoever, believes you should.
— Hillary Clinton
India Today Conclave 2018
Nor was this the first time she blamed White women, especially married White women, for her election loss. It’s a theme with Hillary, who felt that, as the symbol of modern Feminism, she was owed their support and votes.
Her Slip & Fall Self-Injury
And, Hillary being Hillary and being who and what she is, when the public’s response to her statement was outrage, rather than apologize she claimed she was right and lamented that so many women were to stupid, ignorant, or brainwashed to understand and appreciate her statement for the revealed truth that it was.
I also mentioned something in passing that’s gotten a lot of negative attention: that there is anecdotal evidence and some research to suggest that women are unfortunately more swayed by men than the other way around. As much as I hate the possibility, and hate saying it, it’s not that crazy when you think about our ongoing struggle to reach gender balance – even within the same household. I did not realize how hard it would hit many who heard it.
I understand how some of what I said upset people and can be misinterpreted. I meant no disrespect to any individual or group. And I want to look to the future as much as anybody.
Yep. Hillary is shocked and lamentful that so many people “misinterpreted” her statement and were offended by it…but she was right and it’s solely the fault of the offended for being offended, or so Hillary is convinced.
This non-apology apology, nonpology, or fauxpology is one of the classic behaviors of a narcissist – the inability to truly apologize or take responsibility for their failures and/or wrongdoings. It’s extremely condescending and, since it it subtly – or not so subtly – insinuates that the people taking offense were excessively thin-skinned, overly emotional, and/or irrational in taking offense at the remarks in the first place, it’s not that far off from being a gaslighting technique – again, a common tactic of the narcissistic.
More ironically, this is behavior that Hillary and her ilk amongst the Feminists constantly and stridently harp upon as something that men do to women and that women must fight against.
Yeah, as Hillary throws herself down the stairs of irrelevance, I’m guessing that right now there’s a bit more than 57% of White women voters who aren’t with her. 😉
Maybe Women Just Don’t Feel She’s Got A Leg To Stand Upon
But perhaps people’s offense isn’t related to the substance of Hillary’s accusation but due to the fact that she, Bill Clintons wife even to this day, had the unmitigated Chutzpah to make them in the first place. Because, to paraphrase Moochelle Obama, no woman of prominence in modern times has voted by her words, actions, and inactions against her own voice and the voice of women than Hillary Clinton.
Because, after all, aren’t we all suppose to proclaim #IBelieveHer when we hear about Juanita Broaddrick’s, Paula Jones’, and Kathleen Willey’s of being sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton and then intimidated, threatened, and publicly shamed by Hillary? Are we, especially women, not suppose to same the same thing to and about the plethora of other women who’ve said #MeToo to being assaulted or coerced into a sexual relationship by Mr. Clinton? And let’s not forget Monica Lewinsky, who could no more say no than any of Weinstein’s victims.
But let us all just hold on to hope, in vain though it might be, that this self-injury will be lethal to Hillary. The sooner she’s cast down the stairs of irrelevance into the cesspit or landfill of history, the better for America.
The Clintons, Bill and Hillary, are as a couple quite amazing. Most people boggle at the fact that they are still a couple after all that has happened.
The Clintons – Two Of A Kind
But the thing is is that the Clintons are the perfect couple – perfect for each other at least. They’re two peas in a pod, both unrepentant cheaters. All that differs between them is how they cheat.
The Clintons – Setting The Record Straight
They even handle being caught in their various wrongdoings the same way, with predictably similar results. Truly, they’re a match made in Gehenna and, as such, it’s no shock that they’ve cleaved to each other.