A Fit Comparison

The Liberals are often wont to compare Timothy McVeigh’s terrorist attack with the Muslim Terrorist attacks of 9/11. These Liberals always willfully ignore the fact that McVeigh’s Oklahoma City Bombing was purely politically motivated and the simple fact that McVeigh was a self-avowed Agnostic.

The same thing cannot be truthfully said for the jihadis of 9/11 who committed their heinous atrocities in the name of Islam.

Yet, in a strange twist of fate or an example of Divine Provenance, there is a fit comparison between Timothy McVeigh and the Muslim Terrorists and their various overt and/or tacit supporters. It is however a comparison that doesn’t manifest itself until long after the respective acts of terror.

In excerpts of letters published Sunday in his hometown newspaper, The Buffalo News, in New York state, McVeigh defended the bombing as a “legit tactic,” an act of war against what he considers an overbearing federal government.

McVeigh also revealed that at one time he considered having his ashes scattered at the Oklahoma City bombing memorial, but eventually decided against it.

“That would be too vengeful, too raw, cold. It’s not in me,” he said in a letter.

Chambers said that the final destination of McVeigh’s remains would remain privileged forever.

Timothy McVeigh Dead
CNN, June 11, 2001

Timothy McVeigh, the single worst, most destructive, and unrepentant domestic terrorist that America has ever had the misfortune of producing didn’t have it in him to add insult to grievous injury by asking for his ashes to be scattered over the remains of the site of his terror attack.

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf the smiling face of jihadSadly, but not too shockingly, the same sense of place and restraint does not seem to present in the heart and mind of Cordoba House / Park 51’s Imam Feisal Abdul-Rauf. He does seem to “have it in him” to outrage, insult, and offend the vast majority of Americans by building a Islamic Center / Mosque a few hundred yards away from Ground Zero where thousands of Americans died at the hands of Muslim Terrorists.

And remember always that Imam Feisal is touted as a Moderate Muslim and America’s friend…

Yes, this at least seems a true and fit comparison between the Oklahoma City Bombing and the 9/11 Terror Attacks. It also points out what may be the single largest differentiator between America and the Muslim World; the very worst that America can produce is still more humane – more human – than what is considered one of the best of Islam.

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9 Responses to “A Fit Comparison”

  1. El Tigre Says:

    Excellent post.

  2. BGH Says:

    You are wrong about his agnosticism, here are the words from the proverbial horse’s mouth:
    http://www.ethicsdaily.com/news.php?viewStory=15532

    Time Magazine: Are you religious?

    McVeigh: I was raised Catholic. I was confirmed Catholic (received the sacrament of confirmation). Through my military years, I sort of lost touch with the religion. I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.

    Time Magazine: Do you believe in God?

    McVeigh: I do believe in a God, yes. But that’s as far as I want to discuss. If I get too detailed on some things that are personal like that, it gives people an easier way [to] alienate themselves from me and that’s all they are looking for now.

  3. jonolan Says:

    At one point he was Catholic, true. He fell away into agnosticism, though not atheism, by his own admission.

    In any event, he didn’t commit his act of terror in the name of ANY religion or the antithesis thereof, despite the false comparisons of the dhimmi Left, and was more charitable to his victims than this imams is to the victims of the Muslim Terrorists on 9/11.

  4. BGH Says:

    I am not going to argue tit for tat, I do believe McVeigh’s attack was largely political, but I think you make a grave error stating his christian beliefs did not have any influence on his actions.

    “There is no doubt that Timothy McVeigh was deeply influenced by the Christian Identity movement. Christian Identity is a profoundly racist and theocratic form of faith that developed in the late 1970s and spread like wildfire through rural communities throughout the U.S. in the 1980s.

    The chief guidebook for Christian Identity eschatology is “The Turner Diaries” written by William Pierce under the pseudonym Andrew MacDonald. The book is a fictional account of the “day of judgment” for which Identity adherents are preparing. Here’s a summary of the book by Joel Dyer, author of “Harvest of Rage: Why Oklahoma City is Only the Beginning” (1997) by far the best explanation in print for what led to the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City:

    In his book “The Turner Diaries,” Pierce describes a race war that ends with the government being overthrown. Pierce’s book is more than fiction. The most radical elements of the movement view it as a vision or blueprint for action. In the book, the Aryan forces used armored car robberies to finance their revolution. In real life, the radical white supremacist group called “the Order” used Pierce’s book as a guide to their armored car robberies in the Northwest. In the book, the revolutionaries blow up a federal building as part of their antigovernment war. In real life, the bombing of Oklahoma City’s Alfred P. Murrah Building was almost a carbon copy of the incident in Pierce’s book. As I mentioned earlier, Timothy McVeigh had photocopies of a portion of “The Turner Diaries” with him when he was arrested. McVeigh also sold copies of the book at gun shows around the country.”

  5. jonolan Says:

    I won’t argue that McVeigh wasn’t influenced the Christian Identity movement. I will, however, argue that the Christian Identity Movement, along with Black Liberation Theology and the Nation of Islam, have far less to do with religion than with politics, specifically the politics of racism.

    Risking Godwin’s wrath as it were, I’ll point out that Hitler used the trappings of religion – several actually – to further a purely secular agenda.

    Frankly, as a counterpoint, one could say that the Civil Rights movement of the ’50s and ’60s was strongly influenced by MLK’s southern Black Christianity.

    Where does one draw the line on influence?

  6. BGH Says:

    Well, that is the point then isn’t it. Mcveigh, mostly influenced by politics, was a christian and actually delved into racist christian writing. Whether the christianity wholly or partially influenced his act of terrorism, he was not as you say a “self-avowed Agnostic”.

    I am not claiming to know whether he was influenced by his christian beliefs, but only pointing out that he was clearly a believer by his own words and not an atheist /agnostic.

  7. jonolan Says:

    You misunderstand me, either willfully or due to due the inbuilt flaws which caused your Godlessness, I stated that McVeigh was influenced by a movement that had little, if anything, to do with religion beyond its trappings.

    I will give you this though – at one point he did claim to believe in some form of God, though he also stated that he was agnostic in that he had no faith in the nature of that God.

  8. ichabod Says:

    Hi jonolan;

    If I am not mistaken the incident at Waco, Texas, something the government would prefer to not acknowledge ever happened, had a bearing on the Oklahoma City Bombing.

    These people were angry and the anger screwed up their mental processes as they are guilty as the parties who caused the Waco killings of the innocent children who deserved to be protected by their government.

    9/11 is often attributed to Islam, but is really a reflection on foreign policies, interventions and attitudes.

    The religion stuff is all smoke, except it aids in the drafting of bodies to a cause.

  9. jonolan Says:

    You’re not mistaken, ichabod. The government’s mass murder at Waco was supposedly the catalyst for McVeigh’s attack.

    I can’t agree with your assertion about 9/11 though. If you were right, such violence would have been isolated and based upon national /ethnic lines. That was not the case; the violence has been ongoing, accelerating, widespread, and all in the name of Islam.

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