Pakis Defy American Law

Lt Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha - Pakistan's ISI Chief and/or Terrorist RingleaderThe “government” of Pakistan has defied US laws and refused to have its chief of Intelligence, Lt. General Ahmed Shuja Pasha appear in a US court to face a lawsuit alleging that he was responsible for the November, 2008 Muslim Terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India.

Pasha is the chief of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency.

As reported Thursday, December 23, 2010 by the Economic Times of India:

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani today said that no force could pressurise the ISI chief Lt Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha to appear in a US court to face a lawsuit filed by relatives of victims of the Mumbai attacks.

“The ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence)… is an extremely important (and) sensitive institution of this country. If they do not agree to go to the American court, then no one can send them,” Gilani said.

His remarks came as media reports from New York said the plaintiffs in two US lawsuits accusing Pakistan’s spy chief of nurturing terrorists involved in the 2008 Mumbai attacks are hoping for a historic outcome recalling the Lockerbie settlement.

The lawsuit against the ISI and the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) was filed before a Federal court in Brooklyn, NY on November 19, 2010 by relatives of Rabbi Gavriel Noah Holtzberg and his wife Rivka, who were both brutally gunned down by Islamist vermin while at the Chhabad House in Mumbai. The court promptly issued summons to Lt. Gen. Pasha along with other key leaders in the ISI and LeT.

The 26-page lawsuit accusing ISI of aiding and abetting LeT in the slaughter of 166 people was filed before a New York Court on November 19, following which the Brooklyn court issued summons to Major Samir Ali, Azam Cheema, Inter-Services Intelligence of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Major Iqbal, Lakhvi, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Sajid Majid, Pasha, Saeed and Nadeem Taj.

“The ISI has long nurtured and used international terrorist groups, including LeT, to accomplish its goals and has provided material support to LeT and other international terrorist groups,” said the lawsuit filed by relatives of the slain Rabbi. Pasha, who has been director general of the ISI since September 2008, has been summoned, so is Nadeem Taj, the director general of ISI from September 2007 to September 2008.

From what evidence we have, including testimony by Pakistani-American Muslim Terrorist David Headley, the case has definite merit. It is very likely that Pasha and others in Pakistan’s ISI are Islamist terrorists and it’s even more certain that they’ve been waging a war of terrorism against India due to the long dispute over Kashmir.

I wholeheartedly sympathize with the plaintiffs in this lawsuit. These Muslim vermin need to be made to pay in any way that mankind can make them pay.

Then, when we’ve punished them fully, we can shove pork chops down their vile throats and shoot them in their respective heads – unto their last misborn crotch-dropping.

Unfortunately, irrespective of the merits of the lawsuit or mankind’s sentiments, restitution as dictated by the court will not be forthcoming and no member of what passes for Pakistan’s government will ever stand before a US court. It is delusional or foolish to believe, think, or hope otherwise.

Failed state or not, never should have been created out of whole cloth or not, Pakistan is a sovereign nation. Sovereign nations rarely allow their citizens to be summoned to stand before foreign courts in matters of tort, nor due they make any effort to enforce any judgments rendered by such foreign courts. This is even more true when the defendant is a senior member of the nation’s ruling body.

In point of fact, the US behaves in exactly the same manner and protects its citizens and officials the same way. It’s – at best – ridiculous to expect any other nation to behave otherwise. That’s why retribution in such cases is most often best handled outside of the judicial system and by experts in the field of bringing wrongdoers before the highest bar for judgment.

Related Reading:

Foreign policy in Comparative Perspective: Domestic and International Influences on State Behavior
Magnificent Delusions: Pakistan, the United States, and an Epic History of Misunderstanding
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The Siege: 68 Hours Inside the Taj Hotel
Let Your Life Speak: Listening for the Voice of Vocation

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10 Responses to “Pakis Defy American Law”

  1. wasapninworld Says:

    I think all criminals should be taken into account. If this ‘Paki’ is going to be taken to court, then so should Bush and Blair for killing hundreds and thousands innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan to only name 2 genocide accounts.

  2. jonolan Says:

    That’s nice, raghead.

  3. wasapninworld Says:

    Sorry, How am I suppose to understand your comment? Do you agree or disagree? I am just making a point on the issue.

  4. jonolan Says:

    Sure you were. Go peddle Islamic hate elsewhere; all you’ll get here is insults, since you and your bitch are too far away for me to exterminate.

  5. wasapninworld Says:

    I might suggest you learn some manners before you decide to teach the world, how they should live their lives with your hatred filled raciest ideas. Have a good day.

  6. Merl Values Says:

    “Go peddle Islamic hate elsewhere;”

    Yeah wasapninworld, there’s plenty of hate here already.

    Can i just point out a bit of an inconsistency here jono?

    In your post you seem pissed that Pakistan are refusing to obey US law, calling instead for General Ahmed Shuja Pasha to be “settled” out of court.

    If we follow your logic, and it is acceptable for the US to enforce its laws by murdering foreign nationals without trial in their own country, isn’t it also acceptable for other nations to do the same?

    For example, consider that courts in Canada and the U.S. have confirmed the involvement of the Bush administration in war crimes.

    Also consider the fact that George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Tony Blair are all potentially facing The Hague for war crimes, (although the US has refused to accept the court’s jurisdiction, sound familiar?) and risk arrest in more than a few countries around the world.

    By your logic, one of the many countries around the world in which these people (i use the term loosely) are wanted for war crimes should simply employ some “experts in the field of bringing wrongdoers before the highest bar for judgement” to settle Bush, Blair and Cheney “outside of the judicial system”

    Im sure you would agree this is an acceptable way for a thwarted government to behave.

    Or maybe its just that US exceptionalism talking again ;)

  7. jonolan Says:

    No, you got it wrong but that’s hardly surprising; your previous comment showed a simplicity and limitation of thought.

    I’m not bothered by Pakistan not adhering to US laws. Why would I be? We certainly, as I said in the post, adhere to another country’s laws.

    If retribution for the Holtzbergs’ murder is desired, the plaintiffs in this lawsuit would be better off spending their time and money in having Pasha assassinated than in ridiculous legal proceedings that have no power to do anything.

  8. Merl Values Says:

    “If retribution for the Holtzbergs’ murder is desired, the plaintiffs in this lawsuit would be better off spending their time and money in having Pasha assassinated than in ridiculous legal proceedings that have no power to do anything.”

    So you DO think that Bush, Blair and Cheney should just be assassinated, rather than wasting time and money on a trial.

    “your previous comment showed a simplicity and limitation of thought.”

    Whereas your constant calls for murder and your support for fascism show true clarity of thought, wisdom and maturity.

  9. Merl Values Says:

    “I’m not bothered by Pakistan not adhering to US laws. Why would I be?”

    But your post is called “Pakis Defy US Laws”

    And is directly followed by you saying..

    “The “government” of Pakistan has DEFIED US LAWS and refused to have its chief of Intelligence, Lt. General Ahmed Shuja Pasha appear in a US court”

  10. jonolan Says:

    No, unlike the Muslims and the Muslim-loving filth that pollute this world, I have no problems with what Bush, Blair and Cheney did except that they were weak about doing it and too worried about public opinion to do the jobs right.

    On the other hand, it’s just as stupid to think that the US would bow to foreign laws as it is to think that Pakistan would bow to ours.

    Failed state or not, never should have been created out of whole cloth or not, Pakistan is a sovereign nation. Sovereign nations rarely allow their citizens to be summoned to stand before foreign courts in matters of tort, nor due they make any effort to enforce any judgments rendered by such foreign courts. This is even more true when the defendant is a senior member of the nation’s ruling body.

    In point of fact, the US behaves in exactly the same manner and protects its citizens and officials the same way. It’s – at best – ridiculous to expect any other nation to behave otherwise. That’s why retribution in such cases is most often best handled outside of the judicial system and by experts in the field of bringing wrongdoers before the highest bar for judgment./em>

    Try reading the whole post next time. Then, while you’ll be shown as morally bankrupt for siding with the Muslim pig-fuckers, at least you won’t look quite as ignorant and/or stupid.

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