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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/why-obama-will-fail/#comment-34912</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Mr. Ballman.

I used to think as you do but now I&#039;m less convinced that Obama&#039;s core beliefs extend beyond himself and the &quot;legacy&quot; that he will leave. He&#039;s much more the childish narcissist than the Leftist Messiah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Mr. Ballman.</p>
<p>I used to think as you do but now I&#8217;m less convinced that Obama&#8217;s core beliefs extend beyond himself and the &#8220;legacy&#8221; that he will leave. He&#8217;s much more the childish narcissist than the Leftist Messiah.</p>
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		<title>By: Isiah Ballmann</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/why-obama-will-fail/#comment-34895</link>
		<dc:creator>Isiah Ballmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been crystal clear for a long time that Obama has a core set of beliefs that he religiously (no pun intended) sticks to.  The issue here is, he doesn&#039;t seem to realize that his ideas have destroyed everything they have touched time and time again throughout history.  It&#039;s okay... if we survive until next year, the hard road to Reconstruction -I use that word on purpose- can begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been crystal clear for a long time that Obama has a core set of beliefs that he religiously (no pun intended) sticks to.  The issue here is, he doesn&#8217;t seem to realize that his ideas have destroyed everything they have touched time and time again throughout history.  It&#8217;s okay&#8230; if we survive until next year, the hard road to Reconstruction -I use that word on purpose- can begin.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Mason</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/why-obama-will-fail/#comment-13541</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that to right the ship, the pendulum tried to swing all the way to the left before it could rebalance back to somewhere near the middle where it usually rests, but instead, Obama just stopped right in the middle before it could finish the swing.  This left the angry, bitter liberals still angry and bitter for having had to deal with Bush for eight years and not being able to do the same to the Republicans with a total Democratic control for the first time in well over a decade.

The thing about Obama is that he&#039;s actually being a President.  He&#039;s definitely directing the policies that come out of Congress, but he&#039;s still letting the legislature do the ugly business that they are supposed to do: legislate.  And as we&#039;re seeing now with the health care bill, it&#039;s ugly as sin.  What will the final product look like? Remains to be seen.  Will it please everyone? Certainly not.  Is that a good thing? It very well might be.  In the same way that history only makes sense after it&#039;s written, not during, we can only speculate that the bill will be good or that it will make things worse than we have it now (I don&#039;t see that happening, though).  Anyone who expected it to be perfect in the first place doesn&#039;t know anything about politics or just lives in a dreamworld.  And anyone who voted for Obama expecting him to be the liberal Bush (that is, a liberal Decider) clearly wasn&#039;t listening to Obama during the campaign and was one of those people that the Right love to make fun of: those who thought of Obama as the savior - you know, the lady that they always showed saying that she won&#039;t have to worry about anything anymore.

Regardless, Jonolan, you do have a point about the Democrats being the reason that he might not get reelected, but I also agree with BookGuy that it&#039;s far too early to be denouncing his presidency as a failure less than a year in.  His approval rating amongst Republicans was never high so of course his drop had to come from Democrats.  And the Democratic Party has shown that it&#039;s not so liberal as some thought it to be.  But then again, Obama is far from the bleeding-heart liberal that the Right paints him to be, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that to right the ship, the pendulum tried to swing all the way to the left before it could rebalance back to somewhere near the middle where it usually rests, but instead, Obama just stopped right in the middle before it could finish the swing.  This left the angry, bitter liberals still angry and bitter for having had to deal with Bush for eight years and not being able to do the same to the Republicans with a total Democratic control for the first time in well over a decade.</p>
<p>The thing about Obama is that he&#8217;s actually being a President.  He&#8217;s definitely directing the policies that come out of Congress, but he&#8217;s still letting the legislature do the ugly business that they are supposed to do: legislate.  And as we&#8217;re seeing now with the health care bill, it&#8217;s ugly as sin.  What will the final product look like? Remains to be seen.  Will it please everyone? Certainly not.  Is that a good thing? It very well might be.  In the same way that history only makes sense after it&#8217;s written, not during, we can only speculate that the bill will be good or that it will make things worse than we have it now (I don&#8217;t see that happening, though).  Anyone who expected it to be perfect in the first place doesn&#8217;t know anything about politics or just lives in a dreamworld.  And anyone who voted for Obama expecting him to be the liberal Bush (that is, a liberal Decider) clearly wasn&#8217;t listening to Obama during the campaign and was one of those people that the Right love to make fun of: those who thought of Obama as the savior &#8211; you know, the lady that they always showed saying that she won&#8217;t have to worry about anything anymore.</p>
<p>Regardless, Jonolan, you do have a point about the Democrats being the reason that he might not get reelected, but I also agree with BookGuy that it&#8217;s far too early to be denouncing his presidency as a failure less than a year in.  His approval rating amongst Republicans was never high so of course his drop had to come from Democrats.  And the Democratic Party has shown that it&#8217;s not so liberal as some thought it to be.  But then again, Obama is far from the bleeding-heart liberal that the Right paints him to be, too.</p>
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		<title>By: BookGuy</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/why-obama-will-fail/#comment-13499</link>
		<dc:creator>BookGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the funny thing about history, it&#039;s not written till afterwards. And Obama&#039;s less than a year into it. Between now and historians writing about him there are thousand Ifs. 
If the Healthcare Reform is passed, he&#039;ll look visionary
If the Healthcare Reform doesn&#039;t, he&#039;ll look incompetent
If the Economy starts cruising, he&#039;ll be seen as saving our Economy from Republicans
If the Economy double dips, he&#039;ll be seen as an example of how Keynesian economics has failed
If he captures Osama bin Laden, he&#039;s the hero that did what Bush couldn&#039;t
If we&#039;re hit again bad, and things look like he was soft, no Democrat will get elected for a decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the funny thing about history, it&#8217;s not written till afterwards. And Obama&#8217;s less than a year into it. Between now and historians writing about him there are thousand Ifs.<br />
If the Healthcare Reform is passed, he&#8217;ll look visionary<br />
If the Healthcare Reform doesn&#8217;t, he&#8217;ll look incompetent<br />
If the Economy starts cruising, he&#8217;ll be seen as saving our Economy from Republicans<br />
If the Economy double dips, he&#8217;ll be seen as an example of how Keynesian economics has failed<br />
If he captures Osama bin Laden, he&#8217;s the hero that did what Bush couldn&#8217;t<br />
If we&#8217;re hit again bad, and things look like he was soft, no Democrat will get elected for a decade.</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/why-obama-will-fail/#comment-13496</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe, maybe not, BookGuy. Obama has both the lowest approval rating for this point in his term of any POTUS since WW2 and had the sharpest drop in popularity.

All that aside though, it&#039;s the Liberals&#039; growing complaints that I believe will be his downfall insofar as his legacy and memory are concerned. Somehow I just don&#039;t think Obama is going to &lt;em&gt;&quot;find himself on the right side of history.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, maybe not, BookGuy. Obama has both the lowest approval rating for this point in his term of any POTUS since WW2 and had the sharpest drop in popularity.</p>
<p>All that aside though, it&#8217;s the Liberals&#8217; growing complaints that I believe will be his downfall insofar as his legacy and memory are concerned. Somehow I just don&#8217;t think Obama is going to <em>&#8220;find himself on the right side of history.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: BookGuy</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/why-obama-will-fail/#comment-13495</link>
		<dc:creator>BookGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest that talks of failure wait a bit. This premature talk of failure and the 2012 elections is a little silly. I put forth the suggestion that by the time 2012 comes along, the fight will be over things we aren&#039;t even talking about now. 

Do the Dems seem to spend more time shooting themselves than the Republicans? Yeah. And that&#039;ll be their downfall. But let&#039;s not jump to final conclusions before the end of the first year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest that talks of failure wait a bit. This premature talk of failure and the 2012 elections is a little silly. I put forth the suggestion that by the time 2012 comes along, the fight will be over things we aren&#8217;t even talking about now. </p>
<p>Do the Dems seem to spend more time shooting themselves than the Republicans? Yeah. And that&#8217;ll be their downfall. But let&#8217;s not jump to final conclusions before the end of the first year.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/why-obama-will-fail/#comment-13490</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arius, can I have a hit of whatever you&#039;re having?  Wow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arius, can I have a hit of whatever you&#8217;re having?  Wow!</p>
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		<title>By: Arius</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/why-obama-will-fail/#comment-13489</link>
		<dc:creator>Arius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In brief, since the start of the industrialized revolution, the 18th century saw the rise of the economy stronghold, the hegemony of financial domination by a few--starting with the Mayer Amschel Bauer I believe--later turned Rothschild. 

Between the IMF and the WB, these selected and elite individuals control the financial destiny of this country and the world as well. Let&#039;s not forget these international robber barons who backed both sides of the WWI.

My point is this: no matter whose elected, the economic destiny of this country is pre-designed to be ruled by the oligarchy--this surpasses the government that we see in the public (Democrats, Republican, Independent, etc...)--the puppets of passivisity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In brief, since the start of the industrialized revolution, the 18th century saw the rise of the economy stronghold, the hegemony of financial domination by a few&#8211;starting with the Mayer Amschel Bauer I believe&#8211;later turned Rothschild. </p>
<p>Between the IMF and the WB, these selected and elite individuals control the financial destiny of this country and the world as well. Let&#8217;s not forget these international robber barons who backed both sides of the WWI.</p>
<p>My point is this: no matter whose elected, the economic destiny of this country is pre-designed to be ruled by the oligarchy&#8211;this surpasses the government that we see in the public (Democrats, Republican, Independent, etc&#8230;)&#8211;the puppets of passivisity.</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/why-obama-will-fail/#comment-13488</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you haven&#039;t heard anything you&#039;d respect from the Tea Partiers; the media hasn&#039;t exactly published anything about them that was less than derogatory and you&#039;re unlikely to have attended a protest.

As for Palin - she resonates with a huge number of Americans, myself included. Largely this is because the &quot;elites&quot; with their vaunted educations haven&#039;t been serving the needs of we, the People in quite a while. For some of us a track record of actual political reform and basic common sense values count for more than a degree or two.

Is Palin a viable political candidate? You betcha! ;) Would she be bad for America? No worse than Obama if she has GOP Congress and less so if she has a Dem one.

As for lies - If you support Obama at all, you&#039;d best talk softly about lies,half-truths, misdirections, and the twisting of facts. He&#039;s the past master of those rhetorical feats - otherwise you wouldn&#039;t be in your current quandary.

As for hypocrisy - I&#039;d say the two parties are tied on that score. Again, if they weren&#039;t you wouldn&#039;t be in your current quandary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you haven&#8217;t heard anything you&#8217;d respect from the Tea Partiers; the media hasn&#8217;t exactly published anything about them that was less than derogatory and you&#8217;re unlikely to have attended a protest.</p>
<p>As for Palin &#8211; she resonates with a huge number of Americans, myself included. Largely this is because the &#8220;elites&#8221; with their vaunted educations haven&#8217;t been serving the needs of we, the People in quite a while. For some of us a track record of actual political reform and basic common sense values count for more than a degree or two.</p>
<p>Is Palin a viable political candidate? You betcha! <img src='http://blog.jonolan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Would she be bad for America? No worse than Obama if she has GOP Congress and less so if she has a Dem one.</p>
<p>As for lies &#8211; If you support Obama at all, you&#8217;d best talk softly about lies,half-truths, misdirections, and the twisting of facts. He&#8217;s the past master of those rhetorical feats &#8211; otherwise you wouldn&#8217;t be in your current quandary.</p>
<p>As for hypocrisy &#8211; I&#8217;d say the two parties are tied on that score. Again, if they weren&#8217;t you wouldn&#8217;t be in your current quandary.</p>
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		<title>By: July7nyc</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/why-obama-will-fail/#comment-13487</link>
		<dc:creator>July7nyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to hear anything logical come out of a tea bagger- and I am not meaning that to be inflammatory- I mean it literally. I have never heard them talk about their congressmen or senators- I&#039;ve only heard rants about &quot;taking the country back&quot; and how Obama is a &quot;socialist, nazi, show-us-the-birth-certificate, Muslim, Antichrist.&quot; While I may disagree with those who oppose health care reform or gay marriage, if they can back up and articulate a fact-based, rational argument for their opinion, I have complete and utter respect for them. I don&#039;t believe ALL republicans are lunatics, but ones who seem to representing the party as a whole are pretty certifiable. I mean, the media is in no way to blame for Sarah Palin&#039;s image- she does a great job of making herself look as dumb as a rock. It&#039;s people like her that I have little tolerance for because they ruin opportunities for true, progressive, helpful debate and dialogue by getting people riled up on twisting facts, patriotism, and outright lies. Furthermore, when politicians do this, it is absolutely reprehensible. How can it not be criminal to propagate complete lies to the public? I know, I know- they lie all the time, but what I mean is how can they not be called out when they lie about what is contained in various bills/legislation? 
It&#039;s true that both sides seem to be extremely angry, but I believe it&#039;s for completely different reasons. And while I started out 100% un-partisan, it didn&#039;t take me long to see which party I felt most closely embodied my values and opinions. It comes down to which party is the most hypocritical, and hands down- Republicans can take that award.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to hear anything logical come out of a tea bagger- and I am not meaning that to be inflammatory- I mean it literally. I have never heard them talk about their congressmen or senators- I&#8217;ve only heard rants about &#8220;taking the country back&#8221; and how Obama is a &#8220;socialist, nazi, show-us-the-birth-certificate, Muslim, Antichrist.&#8221; While I may disagree with those who oppose health care reform or gay marriage, if they can back up and articulate a fact-based, rational argument for their opinion, I have complete and utter respect for them. I don&#8217;t believe ALL republicans are lunatics, but ones who seem to representing the party as a whole are pretty certifiable. I mean, the media is in no way to blame for Sarah Palin&#8217;s image- she does a great job of making herself look as dumb as a rock. It&#8217;s people like her that I have little tolerance for because they ruin opportunities for true, progressive, helpful debate and dialogue by getting people riled up on twisting facts, patriotism, and outright lies. Furthermore, when politicians do this, it is absolutely reprehensible. How can it not be criminal to propagate complete lies to the public? I know, I know- they lie all the time, but what I mean is how can they not be called out when they lie about what is contained in various bills/legislation?<br />
It&#8217;s true that both sides seem to be extremely angry, but I believe it&#8217;s for completely different reasons. And while I started out 100% un-partisan, it didn&#8217;t take me long to see which party I felt most closely embodied my values and opinions. It comes down to which party is the most hypocritical, and hands down- Republicans can take that award.</p>
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