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		<title>By: Cash For Clunkers 2.0? &#124; Go To The News</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-goes-postal/#comment-35764</link>
		<dc:creator>Cash For Clunkers 2.0? &#124; Go To The News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] remember, even though it’s too late, that Obama joked about the USPS’ problems before while shilling ObamaCare. Think about that and what it bodes for our [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] remember, even though it’s too late, that Obama joked about the USPS’ problems before while shilling ObamaCare. Think about that and what it bodes for our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-goes-postal/#comment-12149</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zhann,

Medicine, especially oncology and neurosurgery is more advanced in the US than in Europe and Canada. People who need such treatments come here, either on their own dime or - in some cases - at the expense of their own country&#039;s health system. That&#039;s not propaganda; that&#039;s fact.

On the other hand, more mainstream treatments are available in those countries free or nearly of free of charge - even to tourists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zhann,</p>
<p>Medicine, especially oncology and neurosurgery is more advanced in the US than in Europe and Canada. People who need such treatments come here, either on their own dime or &#8211; in some cases &#8211; at the expense of their own country&#8217;s health system. That&#8217;s not propaganda; that&#8217;s fact.</p>
<p>On the other hand, more mainstream treatments are available in those countries free or nearly of free of charge &#8211; even to tourists.</p>
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		<title>By: zhann</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-goes-postal/#comment-12148</link>
		<dc:creator>zhann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok ... 

1 - That is extremely rare.  This is more propaganda than truth.  It is extremely rare that a citizen of europe comes to the USA, even with money.  On the other hand, we just had a piece on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mizozo.com/world/08/2009/12/stephen-hawking-on-health-care-nhs-saved-my-life.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mizozo about stephen hawking&lt;/a&gt; citing exactly the opposite.

2 - While there is much truth to this, this isn&#039;t entirely true.  Many medical advances come from Germany, England and France.  I do admit, the majority comes from the states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok &#8230; </p>
<p>1 &#8211; That is extremely rare.  This is more propaganda than truth.  It is extremely rare that a citizen of europe comes to the USA, even with money.  On the other hand, we just had a piece on <a href="http://www.mizozo.com/world/08/2009/12/stephen-hawking-on-health-care-nhs-saved-my-life.html">mizozo about stephen hawking</a> citing exactly the opposite.</p>
<p>2 &#8211; While there is much truth to this, this isn&#8217;t entirely true.  Many medical advances come from Germany, England and France.  I do admit, the majority comes from the states.</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-goes-postal/#comment-12131</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a couple of problems, zhann: 

One - those people in Europe and Canada who can afford to do so, come here to America for most advanced treatments - &lt;em&gt;except replacement organs and &lt;/em&gt;in vitro&lt;em&gt; fertilization&lt;/em&gt; - because those treatments aren&#039;t available in their own countries.

Two - all of those people in Europe and Canada, and the rest of the Western World, are benefiting from the medical advances of America. Under a government run healthcare system it is likely - not assured - that such advancements would be greatly slowed because &lt;em&gt;profit, which is at great risk under ObamaCare, is a great motivator&lt;/em&gt; for companies to spend billions of dollars on research each and every year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a couple of problems, zhann: </p>
<p>One &#8211; those people in Europe and Canada who can afford to do so, come here to America for most advanced treatments &#8211; <em>except replacement organs and </em>in vitro<em> fertilization</em> &#8211; because those treatments aren&#8217;t available in their own countries.</p>
<p>Two &#8211; all of those people in Europe and Canada, and the rest of the Western World, are benefiting from the medical advances of America. Under a government run healthcare system it is likely &#8211; not assured &#8211; that such advancements would be greatly slowed because <em>profit, which is at great risk under ObamaCare, is a great motivator</em> for companies to spend billions of dollars on research each and every year.</p>
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		<title>By: zhann</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-goes-postal/#comment-12127</link>
		<dc:creator>zhann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be an interesting situation.  Of course, logically it is unlikely.  Most likely the insurance companies will begin offering plans for better, private healthcare, such as in Europe and Canada.  However, the vast majority of Americans will likely settle for free healthcare while the rich pay for it like usual.  

It is interesting, I know a great deal of Europeans and a few Canadians ... NONE of them are against their healthcare and all of them are amazed that the USA doesn&#039;t cover their populations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be an interesting situation.  Of course, logically it is unlikely.  Most likely the insurance companies will begin offering plans for better, private healthcare, such as in Europe and Canada.  However, the vast majority of Americans will likely settle for free healthcare while the rich pay for it like usual.  </p>
<p>It is interesting, I know a great deal of Europeans and a few Canadians &#8230; NONE of them are against their healthcare and all of them are amazed that the USA doesn&#8217;t cover their populations.</p>
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