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	<title>Comments on: Obama Fires GM CEO</title>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-fires-gm-ceo/#comment-11573</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, Caitlin, we can buy Ford cars or Imports - but nothing, nada, zilch from Obama Motors. We can, as a people, refuse to invest in Obama Motors. What we can do is make the bail-out a failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, Caitlin, we can buy Ford cars or Imports &#8211; but nothing, nada, zilch from Obama Motors. We can, as a people, refuse to invest in Obama Motors. What we can do is make the bail-out a failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-fires-gm-ceo/#comment-11572</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Can we common Poeple do about the Bailout? Nothing.. we just have to wait and see if the company comes up and develops new cars and prototypes to please the americal consumer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Can we common Poeple do about the Bailout? Nothing.. we just have to wait and see if the company comes up and develops new cars and prototypes to please the americal consumer</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-fires-gm-ceo/#comment-11010</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your last post literally made me laugh out loud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your last post literally made me laugh out loud</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-fires-gm-ceo/#comment-11002</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds a lot like you think I owe you something, Phil. Of course that &quot;gimme, gimme&quot; handout mentality is part and parcel to your kind&#039;s makeup, isn&#039;t it Phil? That believe that people have the positive &quot;right&quot; to the fruits of other people&#039;s labor sort of colors your whole being, doesn&#039;t it?

But - to answer your rant:

I think that we can agree that the level and nature of government involvement in- and control over the actions of the private sector is now greater than it has been in the past. Not even the previous Chrysler bail-out involved the level of interference. 

That being the case, I think it can be safely said that I&#039;m arguing in favor of the status quo, not against it. Simple logic bereft of Liberal &quot;newspeak.&quot;

So, Phil, I believe that you - much like &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/darwins-calling/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another Obama supporter&lt;/a&gt; - have been hoist on your own petard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds a lot like you think I owe you something, Phil. Of course that &#8220;gimme, gimme&#8221; handout mentality is part and parcel to your kind&#8217;s makeup, isn&#8217;t it Phil? That believe that people have the positive &#8220;right&#8221; to the fruits of other people&#8217;s labor sort of colors your whole being, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>But &#8211; to answer your rant:</p>
<p>I think that we can agree that the level and nature of government involvement in- and control over the actions of the private sector is now greater than it has been in the past. Not even the previous Chrysler bail-out involved the level of interference. </p>
<p>That being the case, I think it can be safely said that I&#8217;m arguing in favor of the status quo, not against it. Simple logic bereft of Liberal &#8220;newspeak.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, Phil, I believe that you &#8211; much like <a href="http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/darwins-calling/" target="_blank">another Obama supporter</a> &#8211; have been hoist on your own petard.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-fires-gm-ceo/#comment-10969</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If YOU make the argument that government should be banned from the private market YOU have to support that argument not me. You can&#039;t just pull assertions from your ass and say &quot;prove me wrong.&quot;

And considering the fact that we live in a world where both republicans and democrats support the govt having some say in the free market, the burden of proof is even greater on you to argue why the status quo is wrong.

This is basic argumentation and reasoning 101. Haven&#039;t you ever take a logic class?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If YOU make the argument that government should be banned from the private market YOU have to support that argument not me. You can&#8217;t just pull assertions from your ass and say &#8220;prove me wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>And considering the fact that we live in a world where both republicans and democrats support the govt having some say in the free market, the burden of proof is even greater on you to argue why the status quo is wrong.</p>
<p>This is basic argumentation and reasoning 101. Haven&#8217;t you ever take a logic class?</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-fires-gm-ceo/#comment-10964</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s true, Phil - &quot;you got nothing.&quot;

Your entire argument is based on an underlying premise of the appropriateness of government intervention into the private sector that is for more invasive than is supported by the values of America.

Your facts aren&#039;t what is wrong. What is wrong is the values you hold, apply to those facts, and the conclusions you draw from them.

It&#039;s expected though,
Blessed (Belated) Oestara.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s true, Phil &#8211; &#8220;you got nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your entire argument is based on an underlying premise of the appropriateness of government intervention into the private sector that is for more invasive than is supported by the values of America.</p>
<p>Your facts aren&#8217;t what is wrong. What is wrong is the values you hold, apply to those facts, and the conclusions you draw from them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s expected though,<br />
Blessed (Belated) Oestara.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-fires-gm-ceo/#comment-10963</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do know that just calling me a liberal doesn&#039;t disprove any of my points right? In fact it actually proves that you&#039;re incapable of defending your assertions or rebutting my arguments.

Of course, the ironic part is that you&#039;ll probably try to wave this all away by saying you &quot;refuse to engage in my liberal propaganda&quot; or some other snide dismissive remark that basically means &quot;I got nothing&quot;

Its cool though. 
Happy Easter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do know that just calling me a liberal doesn&#8217;t disprove any of my points right? In fact it actually proves that you&#8217;re incapable of defending your assertions or rebutting my arguments.</p>
<p>Of course, the ironic part is that you&#8217;ll probably try to wave this all away by saying you &#8220;refuse to engage in my liberal propaganda&#8221; or some other snide dismissive remark that basically means &#8220;I got nothing&#8221;</p>
<p>Its cool though.<br />
Happy Easter.</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-fires-gm-ceo/#comment-10956</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Phil - but somewhere along the way you decided to adopt the Liberals&#039; agenda and their methods.

Why you choose to exercise them here I don&#039;t know though. It&#039;s not like this blog is one that normally qualifies for professional attentions from the enemies of America.

I suppose I should be flattered, but I&#039;m guessing this is more of a masturbatory hobby on your part. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Phil &#8211; but somewhere along the way you decided to adopt the Liberals&#8217; agenda and their methods.</p>
<p>Why you choose to exercise them here I don&#8217;t know though. It&#8217;s not like this blog is one that normally qualifies for professional attentions from the enemies of America.</p>
<p>I suppose I should be flattered, but I&#8217;m guessing this is more of a masturbatory hobby on your part. <img src='http://blog.jonolan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-fires-gm-ceo/#comment-10952</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 05:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Don’t bother letting Phil anger you with his anti-Americanism. He gets off on that sort of thing. Since he was - probably still is, but I don’t have proof - a professional Liberal political operative whose job it is to marginalize and hopefully silence real Americans it behooves us to not let him and his ilk win in even the slightest matter.

Remember, he’s trained to identify, marginalize, and anger his enemies and the enemies of his cabal. Phil is well-schooled in such things and in presenting falsehoods and semi-truths in a manner meant to both deceive and to goad otherwise reasonable people into words and/or actions that allow them to be discounted by the majority.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, I&#039;ve worked for more Republicans than democrats. Pretty conservative one&#039;s too. Guess they taught me too well.

By the way, last time I checked you&#039;re not the arbiter that determines what &quot;is&quot; and &quot;is not&quot; American. I can&#039;t think of anything stupider than calling someone &quot;anti-American&quot; because they disagree with your political views. 

Besides, last time I checked the makeup of Congress, the majority of Americans align closer to my political views than yours buddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Don’t bother letting Phil anger you with his anti-Americanism. He gets off on that sort of thing. Since he was &#8211; probably still is, but I don’t have proof &#8211; a professional Liberal political operative whose job it is to marginalize and hopefully silence real Americans it behooves us to not let him and his ilk win in even the slightest matter.</p>
<p>Remember, he’s trained to identify, marginalize, and anger his enemies and the enemies of his cabal. Phil is well-schooled in such things and in presenting falsehoods and semi-truths in a manner meant to both deceive and to goad otherwise reasonable people into words and/or actions that allow them to be discounted by the majority.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;ve worked for more Republicans than democrats. Pretty conservative one&#8217;s too. Guess they taught me too well.</p>
<p>By the way, last time I checked you&#8217;re not the arbiter that determines what &#8220;is&#8221; and &#8220;is not&#8221; American. I can&#8217;t think of anything stupider than calling someone &#8220;anti-American&#8221; because they disagree with your political views. </p>
<p>Besides, last time I checked the makeup of Congress, the majority of Americans align closer to my political views than yours buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/obama-fires-gm-ceo/#comment-10950</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in2thefray,

Don&#039;t bother letting Phil anger you with his anti-Americanism. He gets off on that sort of thing. Since he was - probably still is, but I don&#039;t have proof - a professional Liberal political operative whose job it is to marginalize and hopefully silence real Americans it behooves us to not let him and his ilk win in even the slightest matter.

Remember, he&#039;s trained to identify, marginalize, and anger his enemies and the enemies of his cabal. Phil is well-schooled in such things and in presenting falsehoods and semi-truths in a manner meant to both deceive and to goad otherwise reasonable people into words and/or actions that allow them to be discounted by the majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in2thefray,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother letting Phil anger you with his anti-Americanism. He gets off on that sort of thing. Since he was &#8211; probably still is, but I don&#8217;t have proof &#8211; a professional Liberal political operative whose job it is to marginalize and hopefully silence real Americans it behooves us to not let him and his ilk win in even the slightest matter.</p>
<p>Remember, he&#8217;s trained to identify, marginalize, and anger his enemies and the enemies of his cabal. Phil is well-schooled in such things and in presenting falsehoods and semi-truths in a manner meant to both deceive and to goad otherwise reasonable people into words and/or actions that allow them to be discounted by the majority.</p>
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