Comments on: Meat For The State http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/meat-for-the-state/ The eclectic ramblings of jonolan Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:56:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jonolan http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/meat-for-the-state/#comment-13380 jonolan Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:24:55 +0000 http://blog.jonolan.net/?p=14024#comment-13380 I'm an organ donor myself, so I too see nothing wrong with harvesting organs from voluntary donors. I'm very concerned, however, about the State choosing to do it by fiat and how that could effect care for the critically and/or terminally ill - especially ones that "wouldn't be missed." What was the most disturbing was Sunstein's statement of, <em>“the state owns the rights to body parts of people who are dead or in certain hopeless conditions, and it can remove their organs without asking anyone’s permission.”</em> Excuse me!?! <em>"...or in certain hopeless conditions?"</em> That goes an order or two of magnitude beyond mere "routine" harvesting / recycling of the newly deceased's organs. I’m an organ donor myself, so I too see nothing wrong with harvesting organs from voluntary donors. I’m very concerned, however, about the State choosing to do it by fiat and how that could effect care for the critically and/or terminally ill – especially ones that “wouldn’t be missed.”

What was the most disturbing was Sunstein’s statement of, “the state owns the rights to body parts of people who are dead or in certain hopeless conditions, and it can remove their organs without asking anyone’s permission.”

Excuse me!?! “…or in certain hopeless conditions?” That goes an order or two of magnitude beyond mere “routine” harvesting / recycling of the newly deceased’s organs.

]]> By: zhann http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/meat-for-the-state/#comment-13373 zhann Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:52:15 +0000 http://blog.jonolan.net/?p=14024#comment-13373 I know that this will fly in the face of many religions, but personally I see nothing wrong with harvesting organs for the greater good of society. I know that I am probably in the minority on this, but it seems logical. With so many people dying each day with highly needed organs for transplant patients, I think that some people, especially those with rare blood types, should be heavily encouraged to become organ donors (probably they are). I wish people were more open to helping others for the good of helping rather than for personal gain. Many of my friends are organ donors, and the most common response to those that are not is, "Whats in it for me?". Its unfortunate that in today's age this is still a prevalent mindset. I know that this will fly in the face of many religions, but personally I see nothing wrong with harvesting organs for the greater good of society. I know that I am probably in the minority on this, but it seems logical.

With so many people dying each day with highly needed organs for transplant patients, I think that some people, especially those with rare blood types, should be heavily encouraged to become organ donors (probably they are). I wish people were more open to helping others for the good of helping rather than for personal gain. Many of my friends are organ donors, and the most common response to those that are not is, “Whats in it for me?”. Its unfortunate that in today’s age this is still a prevalent mindset.

]]> By: jonolan http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/meat-for-the-state/#comment-13358 jonolan Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:05:32 +0000 http://blog.jonolan.net/?p=14024#comment-13358 Zhann, Certain organs, such as corneas, are already removed from the dead without asking anyone if it's OK to do so. In some states it's even done by the Medical Examiners why they're determining cause of death... But, as I said in the post, this is not an atrocity that would be perpetrated all at once unless there was a "national disaster" of some form. Zhann,

Certain organs, such as corneas, are already removed from the dead without asking anyone if it’s OK to do so. In some states it’s even done by the Medical Examiners why they’re determining cause of death…

But, as I said in the post, this is not an atrocity that would be perpetrated all at once unless there was a “national disaster” of some form.

]]> By: zhann http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/meat-for-the-state/#comment-13357 zhann Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:55:33 +0000 http://blog.jonolan.net/?p=14024#comment-13357 Being an organ donor, this doesn't effect me either way. That does not take away from its incredible invasion of person. How such a bill could ever pass is beyond me, it would lead to riots in the streets. Many religious people would go batshit crazy that their bodies could be desecrated. I don't think that there is much to worry about here. Being an organ donor, this doesn’t effect me either way. That does not take away from its incredible invasion of person. How such a bill could ever pass is beyond me, it would lead to riots in the streets. Many religious people would go batshit crazy that their bodies could be desecrated. I don’t think that there is much to worry about here.

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