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		<title>By: The Butcher Leaves &#124; Reflections From a Murky Pond</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/killing-dissent/#comment-10547</link>
		<dc:creator>The Butcher Leaves &#124; Reflections From a Murky Pond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Intelligence Council (NIC) - has recused himself from consideration for the position. The man who endorsed the Tienanmen Square Massacre claimed that he couldn&#8217;t perform the duties of the office due to public [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Intelligence Council (NIC) &#8211; has recused himself from consideration for the position. The man who endorsed the Tienanmen Square Massacre claimed that he couldn&#8217;t perform the duties of the office due to public [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/killing-dissent/#comment-10410</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freeman is heavily tied up with the &lt;em&gt;?l Su??d&lt;/em&gt; (the House of Saud); that may explain why your friend approves of his appointment.

For myself, I&#039;m less sanguine about Freeman&#039;s attachment to the Saudi rulers, but it&#039;s a relatively minor matter to me compared to some of his views regarding acceptable governmental practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freeman is heavily tied up with the <em>?l Su??d</em> (the House of Saud); that may explain why your friend approves of his appointment.</p>
<p>For myself, I&#8217;m less sanguine about Freeman&#8217;s attachment to the Saudi rulers, but it&#8217;s a relatively minor matter to me compared to some of his views regarding acceptable governmental practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Susanne</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/killing-dissent/#comment-10404</link>
		<dc:creator>Susanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post! I just heard about this guy from someone&#039;s blog yesterday. She lives in Saudi Arabia and seemed pretty happy with Obama&#039;s appointing him.  His views on the protest in China are disturbing. Hmmmm.  Thanks for bringing this to our attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post! I just heard about this guy from someone&#8217;s blog yesterday. She lives in Saudi Arabia and seemed pretty happy with Obama&#8217;s appointing him.  His views on the protest in China are disturbing. Hmmmm.  Thanks for bringing this to our attention.</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/killing-dissent/#comment-10367</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, writestuff44 - what is Obama doing to roll back some of the drastic changes made during the Bush years? Gitmo - and only Gitmo - may be closed in a year or so, if we can find something to do with the terrorists. The CIA may have to follow the Military standard for interrogation methods - but Obama wants those standards reviewed to see if they need to be given broader scope. FISA - no changes really planned from I can see...

As for the changes made by the Bush administration to the NSA&#039;s procedures and mandate, I approved of the increased surveillance of possibly hostile individuals and groups - but felt that they got caught up in &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; racial / culture profiling too much; they wasted a lot of effort looking into groups that were no threat in order to show - if needed - that they weren&#039;t targeting Muslims.

On the other hand, I despised and condemned the warrantless wire-taps as being illegal, unconstitutional, and STUPID. When the Feds have &quot;secret&quot; courts that can securely provide warrants as needed, there&#039;s no legitimate reason to abrogate people&#039;s rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, writestuff44 &#8211; what is Obama doing to roll back some of the drastic changes made during the Bush years? Gitmo &#8211; and only Gitmo &#8211; may be closed in a year or so, if we can find something to do with the terrorists. The CIA may have to follow the Military standard for interrogation methods &#8211; but Obama wants those standards reviewed to see if they need to be given broader scope. FISA &#8211; no changes really planned from I can see&#8230;</p>
<p>As for the changes made by the Bush administration to the NSA&#8217;s procedures and mandate, I approved of the increased surveillance of possibly hostile individuals and groups &#8211; but felt that they got caught up in <em>not</em> racial / culture profiling too much; they wasted a lot of effort looking into groups that were no threat in order to show &#8211; if needed &#8211; that they weren&#8217;t targeting Muslims.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I despised and condemned the warrantless wire-taps as being illegal, unconstitutional, and STUPID. When the Feds have &#8220;secret&#8221; courts that can securely provide warrants as needed, there&#8217;s no legitimate reason to abrogate people&#8217;s rights.</p>
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		<title>By: writestuff44</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/killing-dissent/#comment-10365</link>
		<dc:creator>writestuff44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more concerned that he was aligned with Richard Nixon..:)  Okay, not really. I rarely run around screaming the Sky is Falling..over anything political, because while I believe in vigilance, watching and doing exactly what we do here and in coffee houses and workplaces..Talk about what is happening, try to be informed, but realize that there are many safeguards in place in the American system of government. I approve of what Obama is doing to roll back some of the drastic changes made during the Bush years, as you mentioned. What did you think of the changes made during those years in regards to the NIA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more concerned that he was aligned with Richard Nixon..:)  Okay, not really. I rarely run around screaming the Sky is Falling..over anything political, because while I believe in vigilance, watching and doing exactly what we do here and in coffee houses and workplaces..Talk about what is happening, try to be informed, but realize that there are many safeguards in place in the American system of government. I approve of what Obama is doing to roll back some of the drastic changes made during the Bush years, as you mentioned. What did you think of the changes made during those years in regards to the NIA?</p>
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		<title>By: jonolan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/killing-dissent/#comment-10363</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems with Freeman is that he&#039;s what is known as a &quot;political realist.&quot; That means he approaches things from a strictly amoral viewpoint without the benefit of any morality to guide his actions or advise. That&#039;s a level of pragmatism that has general lead to great harm.

It&#039;s true that we&#039;re somewhat safe from his actions - as I noted. Just remember that the National Intelligence Council also interacts with the NSA and Homeland Security.  As a progressive moderate I&#039;m fairly sure you didn&#039;t favor many of the actions of those two agencies over the last few years. I think you should be even more concerned now because of Freeman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems with Freeman is that he&#8217;s what is known as a &#8220;political realist.&#8221; That means he approaches things from a strictly amoral viewpoint without the benefit of any morality to guide his actions or advise. That&#8217;s a level of pragmatism that has general lead to great harm.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that we&#8217;re somewhat safe from his actions &#8211; as I noted. Just remember that the National Intelligence Council also interacts with the NSA and Homeland Security.  As a progressive moderate I&#8217;m fairly sure you didn&#8217;t favor many of the actions of those two agencies over the last few years. I think you should be even more concerned now because of Freeman.</p>
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		<title>By: writestuff444</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/killing-dissent/#comment-10359</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not for sure how I feel about this appointment..I was aware of the buzz on both sides of the left right divide, but my feeling about Mr. Freeman,from the bits I&#039;ve read, is that he is a fiercely independent thinker,who doesn&#039;t fall in either camp easily. Yeah, as a progressive moderate..I find the leaked email a bit scary..he&#039;d really isn&#039;t in charge of who gets to protest in the National Mall, so I&#039;ll just assume we&#039;re safe there. :P,

He just seems to have some good alliances that might be useful in intelligence circles, and he seems to have refused to swallow the neo-cons good guy versus bad guy idealogy. .. In fact, his very honest rhetoric and realism may be his downfall..    But someone with his Chinese background...could be very useful and his Saudi Arabia ties..after all, I kind of believe in the..idea of having someone in the marketplace of ideas who knows how to talk to the heavyweights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not for sure how I feel about this appointment..I was aware of the buzz on both sides of the left right divide, but my feeling about Mr. Freeman,from the bits I&#8217;ve read, is that he is a fiercely independent thinker,who doesn&#8217;t fall in either camp easily. Yeah, as a progressive moderate..I find the leaked email a bit scary..he&#8217;d really isn&#8217;t in charge of who gets to protest in the National Mall, so I&#8217;ll just assume we&#8217;re safe there. <img src='http://blog.jonolan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ,</p>
<p>He just seems to have some good alliances that might be useful in intelligence circles, and he seems to have refused to swallow the neo-cons good guy versus bad guy idealogy. .. In fact, his very honest rhetoric and realism may be his downfall..    But someone with his Chinese background&#8230;could be very useful and his Saudi Arabia ties..after all, I kind of believe in the..idea of having someone in the marketplace of ideas who knows how to talk to the heavyweights.</p>
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