Comments on: Graham Schools Holder http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/graham-schools-holder/ The eclectic ramblings of jonolan Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:23:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: J.D.F http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/graham-schools-holder/comment-page-1/#comment-13222 J.D.F Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:56:16 +0000 http://blog.jonolan.net/?p=13723#comment-13222 Sorry, now I understand where you are coming from. Ok. Your reply makes it a bit clearer and I do see the conundrum. - thanks for clearing that up. :) Sorry, now I understand where you are coming from. Ok. Your reply makes it a bit clearer and I do see the conundrum. – thanks for clearing that up. :)

]]> By: jonolan http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/graham-schools-holder/comment-page-1/#comment-13185 jonolan Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:02:03 +0000 http://blog.jonolan.net/?p=13723#comment-13185 I think you miss my point, J.D.F. Holder sounded like he was convinced that these vermin would be convicted in a civilian court. How can this rightly be when no part of their treatment to-date not the methods used to get evidence against them are valid in said court system? So... Either they'll be acquitted on said grounds - which would be a catastrophe for America's security, or they'll be found guilty despite all the violations of their "civil rights" under civilian justice - which would create a legal precedent that would be equally catastrophic. I think you miss my point, J.D.F. Holder sounded like he was convinced that these vermin would be convicted in a civilian court. How can this rightly be when no part of their treatment to-date not the methods used to get evidence against them are valid in said court system?

So… Either they’ll be acquitted on said grounds – which would be a catastrophe for America’s security, or they’ll be found guilty despite all the violations of their “civil rights” under civilian justice – which would create a legal precedent that would be equally catastrophic.

]]> By: J.D.F. http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/graham-schools-holder/comment-page-1/#comment-13183 J.D.F. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:48:16 +0000 http://blog.jonolan.net/?p=13723#comment-13183 I personally think if we give up our core beliefs for the benefit of one small gain, we will in the end create our Achilles heel and far more damage if not destroy our nation and what it originally was built for. So betraying our nation's ethics, putting more faith in military rule than democratic rule has far more scary implications than the reverse. However, with that said, it is also unnerving to think this man would have a lawyer or be able to remain silent. Though I think the latter would likely happen anyway. A part of me wants to beat the crap out of him and any and all those responsible for evils out there. BUT I also remind myself, even the most heinous of villains - serial killers, child murders, rapists...etc. They all get lawyers, and usually (though not always), justice does happen. We cannot stop believing in that and supporting it - or we will lose it all together. Where it fails, we must find ways to fix it... but we cannot abandon it. I personally think if we give up our core beliefs for the benefit of one small gain, we will in the end create our Achilles heel and far more damage if not destroy our nation and what it originally was built for. So betraying our nation’s ethics, putting more faith in military rule than democratic rule has far more scary implications than the reverse. However, with that said, it is also unnerving to think this man would have a lawyer or be able to remain silent. Though I think the latter would likely happen anyway. A part of me wants to beat the crap out of him and any and all those responsible for evils out there. BUT I also remind myself, even the most heinous of villains – serial killers, child murders, rapists…etc. They all get lawyers, and usually (though not always), justice does happen. We cannot stop believing in that and supporting it – or we will lose it all together. Where it fails, we must find ways to fix it… but we cannot abandon it.

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